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Can magic mushrooms treat mental illness?

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🗓️ 10 February 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

They're illegal Class A drugs in the UK - right alongside cocaine and heroine. But new research is exploring whether magic mushroom micro-dosing can treat depression and addiction. So what are the facts?

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Guests:

Dr David Nutt, Professor of Neuropsychopharmacology, Imperial College, London.

Suzanne Duckett and Andy Friedlander, a couple from London.

Host: Manveen Rana.

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0:00.0

In the UK, they're classified as class A drugs, the most dangerous, according to the

0:13.9

government, and crucially illegal.

0:17.6

But why are so many scientists raving about magic mushrooms?

0:23.1

New research suggests hallucinogenic mushrooms may be beneficial for some patients, two studies

0:28.7

found that about 80% of patients who were given a single dose of silobscibin, as a substance,

0:34.5

found in those so-called magic mushrooms, had significant reductions in depression and

0:39.2

anxiety and had minimal side effects.

0:41.8

I genuinely believe this is the most important event in psychiatry treatments, probably for

0:48.8

50 years.

0:50.8

So what's the science behind these claims?

0:56.8

Do therapeutic mushroom retreats really work?

1:00.4

And what does it feel like to experience one?

1:03.5

If you take the munchkins from the Wizard of Oz, make them more sort of fairy and

1:08.3

healthy, and then you imagine you're in a rugby scrum.

1:13.7

You're listening to stories of our times from the times and the Sunday times, I'm Manvin

1:18.4

Rona.

1:19.4

Today, can magic mushrooms help mental health?

1:35.3

In the last few years, some of the most prestigious scientific institutions in the world have

1:41.1

become fascinated by magic mushrooms.

1:45.2

Johns Hopkins in America and Imperial College London have both set up whole centres devoted

1:51.3

to psychedelic research, whilst last month, a study at King's College London proved that

1:56.8

silobscibin, the active drug in mushrooms, could be safely given to patients for the treatment

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