Welcome to the Thinking Fellows podcast.

I'm the producer, Caleb Keith, and I'm joined by our hosts, Dr. Rod Rosenblatt, Scott Keith, and Adam Francisco.

Follow these great minds as they answer pressing questions about theology, history, and apologetics.

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Welcome to the Thinking Fellows.

I'm producer Caleb, and today we're a man short, so I'm joined by...

Man down, man down.

Yeah, man down.

I'm joined by Dr. Keith and Dr. Rosenblot.

For anybody missing Dr. Francisco's voice, that is my fault with some scheduling errors.

But we'll move past that and should still be a good show.

Today we're going to talk about the means of grace.

So if you guys have been listening the whole time,

you'll recall we dedicated an entire episode to grace.

And what today is about is about how God brings that grace,

the gift of his gospel, to his people. And so we're talking about

means here, Dr. Keith. What do we mean by the word means? Well, that's interesting. That's actually

when it's a weird coincidence that I just talked about this today in my class at the university. And when I

asked that question, I often will say to them, what does what does the word means mean in itself?

So if I were to say a means to an end, what am I talking about? And it's anything that I think produces or gets you to what we might say

philosophically is to tell us, the end, the goal, the thing to which you are trying to attain.

And when we talk about this deologically and the means of grace we're keeping in mind the previous

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