The Meaning of Impeachment with Kate Shaw

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 December 2019

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Now might be a good time to get acquainted with impeachment. In fact, we here at #WITHpod believe everyone should listen to an hour-long conversation with a person who is not only familiar with the history of impeachment but who also has granular expertise in that area of law. Heck, how great would it be if that constitutional law scholar once clerked on the Supreme Court and has firsthand experience working in a White House administration! Well luckily for us, Chris Hayes knows such a person. Because he lives with her. And is married to her. That’s right y’all, Kate Shaw is back and we have no chill about it. Listen to Professor Shaw weigh in on where we are in this moment, the history, the law, the legal theory, the practice, and much more. RELATED READING: Impeach by Neal Katyal The Impeachers by Brenda Wineapple YOU MIGHT ALSO LIKE: The Rule of Law in the Era of Trump with Kate Shaw Impeaching a President with Brenda Wineapple Strict Scrutiny

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0:00.0	The places that I thought that the testimony in the last couple of weeks was the most
0:03.6	powerful, Fiona Hill, Bill Taylor, places where everyone seems to agree that this scheme
0:09.6	of trying to induce these political investigations and using this White House meeting and military
0:14.2	aid is leveraged for doing that were corrupt and self-interested and placed the president's
0:19.4	self-interest above the national interest.
0:21.6	But there are also places where the testimony seems to suggest that they materially hurt
0:26.6	America's national interest and that feels like it gets very close to the core of what
0:31.6	the impeachment procedure was designed to target.
0:34.2	Hello and welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.
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