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The Trial

The McCann 'Stalkers' - The “relentless” stalking of Kate McCann

The Trial

The Crime Desk

True Crime

4.21.3K Ratings

🗓️ 10 October 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

Join Caroline and Claire as they bring you the latest from the trial of the McCann “stalkers”. In this episode we’ve got the evidence of Kate and Gerry McCann who said the actions of the two women on trial were relentless and distressing. Gerry also said the family still have a glimmer of hope that Madelaine is still alive and Julia Wandelt could have put the investigation at risk. We also have the moment that Julia Wandelt screamed at Kate McCann “why are you doing this to me.”


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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin


Editor: Chelsea Moore


Creative Director: Caroline Cheetham


Producer: Chelsea Moore


Production Manager: Vittoria Cecchini


Voice Actors: Lucy Ryan and Rhys Hanson


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the trial UK, the McCann Stalkers.

0:09.2

I'm Caroline Cheatham and I'm Claire Duffin.

0:12.0

Today after a dramatic week in court, we've got the evidence from the parents of Madeline McCann.

0:17.5

Kate McCann told a jury here at Leicester Crown Court that she was distressed

0:21.9

when one of the women on trial called her mum in a letter. She said she longed for the day her

0:28.9

missing daughter would be back to call her mum, but Julia Van Delt was not Madeleine. And as Kate

0:34.6

McCann finished giving her evidence, Julia Vandelt screamed,

0:38.2

Why are you doing this to me?

0:40.4

And for the second time this week, she had to be taken out of court, crying.

0:45.3

We also heard the turmoil at the family faced as Julia Vandelt, aided by Karen Sprague,

0:50.7

turned up at the family home and accosted Kate and Jerry.

0:54.0

And we have the evidence from Madeline's sister, Amalie, who said Julia Van Dell, tracked her down on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok, and played with her emotions.

1:04.5

Welcome to episode three, the relentless stalking of Kate McCann.

1:23.3

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