The McCann Stalkers - The Chats with Chat GPT
The Trial
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🗓️ 21 October 2025
⏱️ 32 minutes
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Summary
Today Caroline and Claire have the evidence that Julia Wandelt had to be convinced she was not two other missing children before she decided she was Madeleine McCann. We also have the evidence from a forensic expert who said her DNA proved she was not Madeleine and we have what Chat GPT told her when she asked if she might be Gerry McCann’s daughter.
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Presenters: Caroline Cheetham and Claire Duffin
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Trial UK, the McCann Stalkers. |
| 0:09.1 | I'm Caroline Cheatham. |
| 0:10.9 | And I'm Claire Duffin. |
| 0:12.1 | Today we've got the details of how and when Madeline McCann's DNA was taken from her pillowcase in the days after she was abducted from her bed in Portugal. |
| 0:22.7 | And a scientist has now told the court that her DNA was compared to a sample from Julia |
| 0:27.9 | Van Delt and there was no match. We've also now heard evidence that there are concerns that |
| 0:33.1 | Julia Van Delt's claims that she was, Madeline McCann, were so persistent it could have impacted on the efforts to find her. |
| 0:41.3 | And the jury had been told that even though Julia Van Delt hounded the McCanns with calls, emails and messages, |
| 0:47.7 | Kate and Jerry still treated her with grace. |
| 0:50.8 | And we've also heard from a charity in Poland who have told a jury that Julia Van Delt |
| 0:56.1 | also claimed to be two other missing girls. Welcome to episode six, the chats with chat GPT. We're all so busy. |
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