The Square Ball podcast.

To get the members show, the Phil Hey Years, and to listen, add free, go to the squareball.net forward slash plus.

The matchball.

Hello to you. Welcome to the show. We're streaming live on YouTube exclusively for our CSB Plus members who get early access to the match ball afterwards as well. You can watch the show on the free feed later on. You can listen in your podcast app as well. It's a good job that the match ball is sponsored by a legal firm, Michael Normanton. I will throw to you at this point and ask you to sell the services of Levi's solicitors, but also to reflect on what Levi's solicitors might advise us to do with this show today. I think we've done well. We've got a lot out of our system before we started recording. Correct. And it's left me free to focus on Will's probating conveyancing and litigation and other legal services, which you can get a 10% discount on.

Yeah, you can get a 10% discount on your legal fees on the full range of services,

which you can find details of and terms on the website at Levi'slisters.com.uk

forward slash the square ball. Dan, Michael, Chris Mack, as we pick the bones out of a

nil-0 game at Crystal Palace, which was high on drama, but low on action, if you like. First question is, under the circumstances, are you happy with the nil-nil and a point? Yes. Yeah, I'd have probably taken a point before the game, but there's been a bit reluctant about it, but yeah, in those circumstances, I've just closed a few Wikipedia pages. I think with Forrest drawing it at the same time, at home against Fulham,

that feels like a worse result for them than it is for us.

They're now appointed at Palace.

And hopefully, I hate doing this really because you're just waiting to be bitten on it,

aren't you?

But hopefully Spurs don't win. And then essentially the weekend just all was pointless. And it all pushes the whole miserable thing on just another week. It was fun a while ago, won't it? Like just a couple of weeks ago. Well, to be fair, if we got the win against Sunderland that we should have done, then none of this would have mattered.

It would have been a good point.

We've gone, yeah, point's fine today.

So we did shoot ourselves in the foot on that game. Maybe we're not attacking him enough. Shot ourselves in the foot today by missing a penalty. But it doesn't feel like that's the big talking point, does it? it feels like it's the

contribution of the referee Thomas Bramall.

Is he from Sheffield?

Is that correct?

Yeah.

I have mentioned him before on this show, and I seem to recall, he's only refereed five matches of hours, including this one today, and he reffed the reverse fixture earlier in the season. But he also did the third round replay in the FA Cup against Cardiff in 2020.

But it's the loot and away fixture in the championship that was particularly difficult to

...