You're going to be. Hi and welcome to the working songwriter the show where today's best

songwriters come to talk shop I'm your host Joe Pug.

Each episode here we host a distinguished guest

and we ask them to go deep on their inspiration,

on their process, on the general ups and downs of making a life in music.

So, whether you're a grizzled veteran, surprisingly and

secretly thankful that coronavirus has kept you out of a passenger van for the last two

months or else a scrappy upstart secretly furious that your only chance to play your

debut album is via Twitch. This is your show.

Because ultimately, it is what every writer seeks most,

an ironclad excuse to put off actually writing.

Hey guys, it is the fourth, count him four Fridays of May so far, 2020.

I thank you for joining us.

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