The Welcome to Grusum, your horrific true crime podcast. I am Connie, along with my favorite Gemini in the world

Meg.

Today she's gonna talk to us about the Mark

and John Catfish stabbing.

I know it's kind of a mouthful.

Yeah, he was like, what do you call in this episode?

Ah, this is what I'm calling it. This is a lot is what it is. It'll make sense by the end.

And it has in the name what it is because I wanted to talk about catfishing it just seems like almost

Halloween seems appropriate to talk about pretending to be someone you aren't.

Man I've been catfished so hard before it's like embarrassing to talk about it. We could talk. We did talk about it once though. You told me about that one time. You got catfish and they said that they were Pete wins. I just got an unsolicited dick pick.

And I was like, oh my God, Pete Wins send me a picture of his penis.

And I was like, wait.

Why would he send me?

33 year old me is like it's still so funny that I was that naive.

You know what I think after today's episode you will be proud that you are only that naive.

I guarantee you.

But we constantly hear about people getting catfish,

just like from, you know...

Yeah, I mean, there's a you on it

except yeah the Monteto scandal got that whole netfoot special that was pretty much

just about him getting catfish and i will preface this case. The reason it's called the Mark and John is because the names in this case are redacted because this case is about minors.

So they call them Mark and John and all the media.

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