The Man Who Navigated the End of History

Angry Planet

Matthew Gault

War, Politics, Conflict, Government, History, News

4.3 • 882 Ratings

🗓️ 21 October 2020

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Remember back when the Berlin Wall fell and history ended? Back when we won the Cold War and America was embraced by allies old and new, becoming the world’s only superpower. The Gulf War was fought and seemingly won.

Actually, maybe you don’t. It was the end of the 1980s, after all.

George Bush - no, not that one - stood at the center of events, and inside that center stood James A. Baker III.

To tell us about the man who ran Washington, and why he remains important, we welcome Peter Baker of the New York Times who wrote the book with his wife Susan Glasser of the New Yorker. The couple’s book, coincidentally, is called The Man Who Ran Washington.

Recorded 10/9/20
Hey, remember the 1980s?
Who was the man who ran Washington?
Foreign policy as the presidential big leagues
The nightmare of facing Jim Baker in an election
“Baker was Bush”
How to win the Iraq war only to lose it later
How to navigate the end of history
Sibling rivalry between Bush and Baker

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0:00.0	Love this podcast support this show through the a cast supporter feature
0:05.1	It's up to you how much you give and there's no regular commitment. Just click the link in the show description to support now. They don't have to worry about Congress for the most part.
0:20.0	They don't have to worry about the courts for the most part. They have so much more freedom to act on the world stage and people like Trump in particular love the
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0:46.7	even though it doesn't produce anything of actual substance. One day all of the facts in about 30 years time will be published.
1:00.0	When genocide has been carried out in this country almost with impunity and when it is near
1:07.0	conferencially people talk about intervention. vision.
1:13.0	They will be met with fire, fury, and frankly power, the likes of which this world has never seen before. So, Hello and welcome to Angry Planet. I'm Matthew Gott.
1:55.0	Remember back when the Berlin Wall fell and history
2:00.0	and history ended?
2:02.0	Back when we won the Cold War in America was embraced by allies old and new,
2:07.1	becoming the world's only superpower. The Gulf War was fought and seemingly won.
2:14.0	Actually, maybe you don't.
2:15.3	It was the end of the 80s and the beginning of the 90s,
2:17.6	after all.
2:18.9	George Bush, no, not that one, stood at the center of events, and inside that center, stood James A. Baker the third.
2:28.0	To tell us about the man who ran Washington and why he remains important. We're welcoming Peter Baker of the New York Times who wrote the book with his wife Susan Glasser of the New Yorker. The couple's book, coincidentally, is called The Man Who Ran Washington.
2:44.0	Thank you for joining us.
2:46.0	Hey, thanks for having me.
2:48.0	Appreciate it.
2:49.0	All right, this is a big question that has to fit in a little space but can you sum up who James
2:54.0	Baker is and was? Yeah it's a hard one because he was so many things.
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