The man who helped kill DEI

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🗓️ 13 March 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Policy in the second Trump administration is being driven by a small group of thinkers from the online right. We talk to one of them about how he got DEI dismantled. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan with help from Carla Javier, edited by Amina Al-Sadi, fact-checked by Laura Bullard, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Noel King. Further reading: The deeply online origins of MAGA 2.0 by Andrew Prokop. The Origins of Woke by Richard Hanania. Richard Hanania, Rising Right-Wing Star, Wrote For White Supremacist Sites Under Pseudonym. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members Photo courtesy of Richard Hanania. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	For more than half a century, the U.S. had a rule that said anyone that does business with the federal government, from Boeing to FedEx and Pfizer to Johns Hopkins, had to take affirmative action toward hiring people regardless of race, color, or creed.
0:16.3	On day one of his presidency, Donald Trump ended that rule.
0:20.5	We've ended the tyranny of so-called diversity, equity, and inclusion policies all across
0:27.3	the entire federal government and, indeed, the private sector and our military.
0:35.8	And our country will be woke no longer.
0:41.2	As the U.S. exploded following the murder of George Floyd in the summer of 2020,
0:45.7	a loose coalition of highly online commentators, sub-stackers, and Twitter shit posters
0:51.2	set their sights on eviscerating DEI policies.
0:54.8	Then they won.
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