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Will Cain Country

The Man Who Exposed Minnesota’s Billion-Dollar Fraud (ft. David Hoch)

Will Cain Country

FOX News Podcasts

News, Society & Culture, Sports News, News Commentary

4.72.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Lifelong Minnesotan and the man responsible for tipping off Nick Shirley to the billion dollar fraud scandal in his state, David Hoch tells Will how the story came to his attention in the first place. David shares the history behind Minnesota’s Somali community becoming a hotbed for fraud, how state and federal politicians allowed the fraud to be perpetuated, and why he approached an independent journalist to break the story instead of the local media. Plus, Will listens to the plights of you, The Willitia, in another segment of ‘Will Call,’ giving his advice on everything from what to do if your school suspends you for swearing at ChatGPT to your husband faking his employment while draining your savings.   Subscribe to ‘Will Cain Country’ on YouTube here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Watch Will Cain Country!⁠⁠ Follow ‘Will Cain Country’ on X (⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠), Instagram (⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠), TikTok (⁠⁠@willcainshow⁠⁠), and Facebook (⁠⁠@willcainnews⁠⁠) Follow Will on X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@WillCain Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Right, that's it. Come on. Lights out. You've got a test tomorrow. Just two minutes. I'm about to reach the next level. It's going off now. Yeah, whatever. Let's see. Where's the app? Oh, here it is. What? How? Oh, no. You're out. Better look next time. Mom! It's game over for late nights on school nights. EE Wi-Fi controls help you get them off the Wi-Fi and into bed.

0:22.8

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0:27.8

To verify, see EE.com.ukau-UK slash claims. David Hawk is the man who reached out to Nick Shirley.

0:46.4

As a lifelong Minnesotan, he saw what was happening in the Somali community with fraud in Minnesota.

0:55.0

Today, David Hawke and we'll call advice and questions on Wilcane Country.

1:02.0

It is Wilcane Country, normally streaming live every Monday through Thursday at 12 o'clock Eastern time,

1:08.0

but always available, as is this Friday episode, by following us on

1:12.9

Spotify or on Apple. Before there was Nick Shirley, there was David Hawk, a man, a lifelong

1:20.0

Minnesotan who lived and saw exactly the crimes taking place in his community. He reached out to

1:26.7

Nick Shirley on social media,

1:28.1

and he did the research into multiple welfare programs in Minnesota.

1:34.2

Today, we are joined by David Huck.

1:38.6

David, did we all make an agreement that every time we do an appearance,

1:41.6

we're going to wear our quality leering center sweatshirts and

1:44.1

hoodies? Absolutely. I noticed Nick doesn't do an appearance without wearing his hoodie. This is the

1:52.8

first time I've seen you in the quality leering center gear. Did you see the video of him dropping

1:56.8

one off at Omar's office? You'll have on Omar's office? No. After he testified, he went over to her office. You're on Omar's office? No.

2:03.7

After he testified, he went over to her office.

2:06.7

He made a special clip just of that.

2:12.2

It's the woman like she was holding something radioactive, her staff member.

2:21.3

Like a dead stuff she's holding it far away from her body in case she gets contaminated. It doesn't slam the bar, but she calls it a quick.

2:26.3

Hey, David, take me back in time. So I have interviewed Nick a couple of times, and he told me that he heard from you on social media.

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