The Man in Charge of Trump’s Border Policy

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The New York Times

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🗓️ 14 November 2024

⏱️ 32 minutes

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President-elect Trump’s cabinet nominees and major appointments — which have arrived quickly in the days since he won the election — are more than just a list of allies. The roster is a window into how he sees the mission of a second term. One priority will be immigration and border control, and, more specifically, Trump’s campaign promise of “mass deportations.” On Sunday night, Trump announced the person he was putting in charge of this effort: Tom Homan. Homan was the acting director of Immigration and Customs Enforcement during the first Trump administration, and he played a key role in the family separation policy. Back in March 2023, we went to see Homan speak at the Conservative Political Action Conference, known as CPAC. After his panel, we sat down to discuss his views on the border and how he and Trump might institute their preferred policies, like mass deportation, if given the chance. Which of course, they now have been. On today’s show, that candid interview from 2023 with Tom Homan, and a possible glimpse at our immigration future.

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0:00.0	Just 10 days after the election, the story of a second Trump administration is already taking shape.
0:15.6	The appointments are coming pretty fast and pretty furious.
0:18.5	Marco Rubio is expected to be named Secretary of State.
0:21.6	Steve Miller, Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy.
0:23.6	Fox News anchor Pete Hegeseth as Defense Secretary.
0:26.6	Elise Stefonic will be UN ambassador.
0:28.6	Elon Musk and former candidate Vivek Ramizwamy to lead an advisory team.
0:32.6	Lee Zeldin, the EPA administrator.
0:34.6	Other picks include John Ratackleff for CIA director
0:38.1	and Mike Huckabee as ambassador to Israel.
0:42.4	More than just a collection of names,
0:45.5	Trump's appointments provide a window
0:47.1	and to how he sees the mission of a second term.
0:50.9	And while it's hard to know the exact policy priorities of Trump 2.0, one clear priority
0:57.0	will be immigration and border control. And more specifically, Trump's campaign promise
1:02.6	of mass deportations. On Sunday night, Trump announced the person he was putting in charge
1:08.4	of this effort. Tom Holman is a former acting director of immigration and customs enforcement.
1:13.5	Tom Holman.
1:14.5	And sent to serve as President-elect Trump's so-called border zone, overseeing security along
1:19.4	the U.S. Mexico span and the removal of potentially millions of undocumented immigrants.
1:25.3	Homan was the acting director of immigration and customs enforcement during the first Trump
1:30.2	administration and played a key role in the controversial family separation policy, which
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