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The Times Tech Podcast

The man behind the NHS mental health bot

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Interviews, News, Silicon Valley, Business News, Tech, Artificial Intelligence, Business Analysis, Ai, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

AI chatbots are being used by millions. But are they safe? Danny Fortson speaks to Ross Harper, the co-founder and CEO of Limbic AI, a company which has developed artificial intelligence software which can be used clinically as part of mental health treatment. Limbic is now used in 50% of NHS trusts, and has its eye on being used in all 50 States by the end of 2025. They talk about the future - and the reckoning he thinks is coming for wellness apps. Plus the Times' US business editor Louisa Clarence-Smith joins Danny to talk about the Figma IPO and the backlash to the UK's Online Safety Act.

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0:00.0

There's a lot we're told about bladder lakes.

0:02.5

We're told it's the sign of decline.

0:04.5

But it means that you have to stop doing the things that you love.

0:07.0

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0:09.2

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0:10.3

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0:16.3

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0:20.6

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0:22.5

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0:25.2

Always seek medical advice from your GP or pelvic health specialist.

0:32.5

Hello, I am Danny Fordson.

0:37.0

Another week at the Times Tech Podcast, and I have another fabulous guest host joining me.

0:43.6

And unlike last week, this one isn't AI and programmed to insult me.

0:49.0

So while Katie Prescott is sunning herself on her summer break. I'm here with Louisa Clarence

0:55.2

Smith, the US business editor at The Times. Hello. Hi, Danny. Great to be with you. I'm

1:01.8

here from New York. How's New York? It's good. It's hot, very hot, but I'm appreciating the

1:07.4

US adoption of air conditioning, which we don't have in the UK. So you can actually be

1:15.9

productive here as everyone in Europe is now realizing. Yes, yes, yes. You know, AC is a good thing.

1:22.2

It is. I loved reading about your experience with, you know, Mosque's X-I chatbooks last week.

1:28.9

So I'd love to hear, have you kind of kept them going? Are they still abusing you?

1:33.1

Well, I have checked in on occasion just to see how my friends, Rudy and Annie, were doing.

1:39.2

They're still just super, super weird and either wildly insulting or kind of creepily flirtatious.

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