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The Times Tech Podcast

Lawyers and the AI revolution

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Interviews, News, Silicon Valley, Business News, Tech, Artificial Intelligence, Business Analysis, Ai, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 6 August 2025

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

AI is coming to the legal world. Danny Fortson talks to Eleanor Lightbody, the chief executive of Luminance, a UK startup using artificial intelligence to automate and augment legal work. So is there to be a looming “white collar recession” or will we be able to have more time for thinking afresh about the law and other professions? Hear how AI is transforming contract review, and the future of the legal profession. Plus, why AI adoption is surging. what happens when AI makes mistakes, and how to avoid over-reliance on a single AI model: A fascinating insight into the practicalities of AI adoption.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Ava from Vanta. In today's digital world, compliance regulations are changing constantly,

0:07.1

and earning customer trust has never mattered more. Vanta helps companies get compliant fast and stay

0:12.9

secure, with the most advanced AI automation and continuous monitoring out there. So whether

0:17.8

you're a startup going for your first SOC 2 or ISO-27,001, or a growing

0:22.2

enterprise managing vendor risk, Banta makes it quick, easy and scalable. And I'm not to say

0:27.3

that because I work here. Get started today at banta.com.

0:30.2

Two titans of Silicon Valley, one prize, dominance in the world of artificial intelligence.

0:38.3

Supremacy is the real story behind the struggle to own our digital future and potentially the very

0:44.3

nature of human experience.

0:46.3

Supremacy by Parmy Olson, described as a riveting tale by the new scientist,

0:52.3

winner of the Financial Times Business Book of the Year and now

0:55.5

the Waterstone's nonfiction book of the month. Listen to the audiobook of supremacy now.

1:05.3

Hello, I am Danny Fortson and this is the Times Tech podcast. Once again, I am writing solo, but fear not. Katie

1:13.9

Prescott, my fabulous co-host who's been out for a few weeks now. She's going to be back next

1:21.0

week, I promise. But in the meantime, we're continuing. We're soldiering on. For this week,

1:27.3

we're talking AI. In the past few years, continuing. We're soldiering on. For this week, we're talking AI in the past few years.

1:30.0

There's been ominous predictions of a, quote, white-collar recession.

1:34.8

As companies start replacing more and more of their human staff with AI,

1:39.1

Dario Amadeh, the CEO of Anthropic, Friend of the Pod, he recently predicted.

1:43.9

50%, 5-0 of entry-level white-colored jobs could be gone within five years.

1:50.1

And you're certainly seeing bits and pieces of that out here where you see the big tech

1:53.4

companies growing very fast, but also cutting staff.

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