Every week, Hillsdale College President Larry Arne joins Hugh Hewitt to discuss great books,

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Morning, glory, and evening, grace, America.

I'm Hugh Hewitt. Inside the Bellway, that music means the Hillsdale Dialogue is upon us each week, the last broadcast hour of the week.

Devoted to big ideas and big things and big people and big books.

And this week we got Dr. Matthew Spalding, who is dean of the Kirby Center and the

graduate school of studies in statesmanship at the Kirby Center and the school of graduate, the graduate school of studies in statesmanship at the

Kirby Center in Washington, D.C. Hillsdale's flagship inside the Beltway. And we are meeting

here online and in your living rooms and in your cars on a special day. Cadeen Spalding wrote a

great book, which we talked about earlier this year, the making

of the American mind, the story of our Declaration of Independence, and today it received the,

today, this very day, it received the award for Book of the Year from the Intercollegiate

Studies Institute.

And that's a big deal, if you know anything about ISI, Matt, congratulations. I did not know

that until today. This is well-timed. That's a big deal. Congratulations.

Thank you. It was a great honor, and I have great gratitude for it. I see. I is a venerable

and important influential group of faculty nationwide, conservative faculty and students.

And they take books seriously. So that's something I respect greatly. And it was quite wonderful.

We had a great ceremony here in Washington, D.C., And it was very important this year of all years to honor something like the Declaration

of Independence in that writing.

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