The Making of a Football Superpower - Part Three: A New Dawn
It Was What It Was : The Football History Podcast
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🗓️ 28 February 2025
⏱️ 48 minutes
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Summary
Welcome back to It Was What It Was. This is the story of a new dawn - where one national team took full control of their destiny, cementing a legacy that continues to shape football today.
Following their World Cup triumph (in our last part), the U.S. Women's side entered a new era of independence and power - and with it came major shifts.
Coach Tony DiCicco became a casualty of the team’s growing influence, making way for fresh leadership and a transformed vision. But tensions were surfacing behind the scenes, with a showdown between star player Brandi Chastain and new coach April Heinrichs...
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| 0:00.0 | They were so mad at the independence of what we had done, the independence we had created. |
| 0:12.4 | I'm Jonathan Wilson and with Rob Draper, and welcome to It Was What It Was, the Football History podcast, for this the final part of our series on the rise of the US |
| 0:21.5 | women's national team. That quote was from John Langale, the US Women's National |
| 0:25.8 | Team's lawyer. And you may remember in the previous part, we were talking about how after |
| 0:31.2 | winning the 1999 World Cup, the women, particularly Mirham, had sort of led this sort of |
| 0:36.1 | breakaway to gain more independence |
| 0:38.5 | and to make more money for that US women's squad, that very successful women's squad |
| 0:42.7 | from the US Soccer Federation. So Rob, you've taken us from Carly Lloyd through the first two |
| 0:49.7 | parts. What are we looking at in this final part, which I presume is taking us up to the start of Carly Lloyd's career. |
| 0:55.4 | Is that right? |
| 0:56.0 | Yeah, absolutely. |
| 0:56.8 | We're going to try and bring it up to where Carly Lloyd comes into the story, |
| 1:00.5 | going back and listening, obviously, to our Carly Lloyd special, really fascinating insight she gave us. |
| 1:07.1 | But yeah, the 99ers, the 1999 World Cup win is an iconic moment. |
| 1:11.3 | That's where we finished the last part. |
| 1:12.8 | And Buncha Justane ripping off her shirt and creating probably still the most iconic moment in women's football. |
| 1:20.9 | But as we said at the time, it leads that there's a massive dispute after that. |
| 1:24.9 | They go on their own indoor tour, at least they plan to the women eventually to the Soccer Federation, |
| 1:30.7 | the US Soccer Federation get alongside that. |
| 1:33.1 | And there is kind of a meeting of mind, but, but, but this tension is going to be evident over the next few years. |
| 1:39.7 | And we're going to go up to, I think we'll go up to the Olympics in 2004 when, spoiler alert, they |
| 1:45.8 | do recover to win a gold medal. But, you know, you would imagine after that 1999 moment, |
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