The MAGA Foreign Policy Battle | NonZero World feat. Kelley Vlahos
Robert Wright's Nonzero
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🗓️ 28 March 2025
⏱️ 39 minutes
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0:30 The dueling camps in right-wing foreign policy 10:25 Lessons from the Signal snafu 15:42 Are hawks dominating Trump's foreign policy team? 22:58 Can Congress prevent a war with Iran? 31:13 A "smear campaign" against Danny Davis
Recorded March 28, 2025.
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| 0:00.0 | You're listening to Non-Zero World. |
| 0:04.1 | I'm your host, Connor Eccles. |
| 0:08.5 | Each week, I break down the latest developments in U.S. foreign policy and other global news, |
| 0:14.3 | and I interview a leading expert or activist. |
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| 0:31.0 | Hey, Kelly, how you doing? |
| 0:33.3 | Great. Great to see you. |
| 0:36.3 | Great to see you, too. I appreciate you coming on. Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course, but why don't I introduce us? So I am Connor Eccles. I'm the host of Non Zero World and the managing editor of the Non Zero Newsletter. You are Kelly Vlayhost, the editorial director of responsible state craft, which is the online magazine of the |
| 0:56.5 | Quincy Institute. You're also, let me make sure I got all these. So you're the contributing |
| 1:00.6 | editor, the American Conservative. You're the host of the podcast Trip the Beltway Fantastic. Am I |
| 1:07.3 | missing anything? No, that sounds that that's great. I sound very busy. |
| 1:12.4 | I'm sure you are very busy, so I appreciate you taking time to chat with us. |
| 1:16.6 | Absolutely. Yeah, for context too, for listeners and full disclosure, Kelly was my editor, |
| 1:23.3 | and I am a former reporter at Responsible Statecraft, so it's fun for us to be meeting back up like this. |
| 1:30.3 | But the real advantage of having you on here today, Kelly, is that you are really deeply involved in these debates around conservative foreign policy, and we're in a really fascinating time in Republican foreign policy in general. So I want to talk, obviously, |
| 1:46.8 | about this crazy signal chat story, about the bombings in Yemen and all those different things. |
| 1:53.5 | But first, I wondered if you could just sort of lay out for our listeners how you see the, like, |
| 2:00.4 | rough taxonomy of the different kind of tribes within Republican |
| 2:04.9 | foreign policy today. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I'm very heartens on one level because |
| 2:10.9 | having worked at the American conservative since 2007 in terms of like contributing as a |
| 2:16.8 | contributing editor at first and then I literally |
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