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promised a discussion of week two of the Lori Valo trial getting crazier by the week and joining me this episode is Iris, whom many of you may remember from previous episodes. She is a in her past, she was an autopsy technician and she has come on numerous times in the past to discuss a variety of cases where her expertise has been incredibly helpful.

Now Iris and I recorded for almost three full hours so

sadly I did have to cut this episode into two pieces so this morning I'm

actually releasing part one later this evening I'll release part two so they're actually both going to come out at the same

You know on the same day, but I'm sure you guys don't want like a three hour file on your Spotify iTunes however you're listening so

chopping that into two pieces for easier consumption. Before we get into it

again don't forget you can check us out at we saw the devil.com from there you can find us across all social media and so forth as well as the

Patreon if you're interested in financially backing the show. I'm just going to go ahead and

error our discussion.

And Iris, welcome back on. It has been far too long.

Oh, it has. Thank you for having me back.

It's always so much fun to record with you and be on and just talk about all this stuff.

You have been my girl for like 15 years now.

I can't believe how long I've actually known you way back in the horror podcast days.

Right?

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