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How do you solve a problem like Boris?

A friend of Rishi thinks he has the answer.

If good government and a reasonable argument goes through having to break with Boris Johnson

and I believe it does, he should certainly do that.

That is Danny Lord Finkelstein, who's close to the Prime Minister indeed.

He's been an advisor to five out of the last seven Tory leaders from major to soon ag.

But not including Boris Johnson or Liz Truss.

For much of that time he's been a columnist for the Times newspaper, chronically the ups

and downs of British politics, drawing on his experience and on his family's remarkable

story.

His mother escaped Birkenbelson.

She's been sent to that concentration camp by the Nazis.

His father escaped the Soviet Gulag.

He'd been sent there by Stalin.

Danny Finkelstein?

Lord Finkelstein, welcome to political thinking.

As a columnist, as an advisor as well, you've argued in defence of what you always call

moderation.

We might come to what moderation is in a second.

But I sense in your recent writing, you fear that that is under threat in a way you

never thought it was before.

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