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Ear Hustle

The Loop Ep. 4: Where’s the Conflict?

Ear Hustle

Ear Hustle & Radiotopia

Documentary, Society & Culture

4.921.6K Ratings

🗓️ 19 November 2025

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Boys at Crossroads outnumber girls 10 to one, but if you ask staff about who’s harder to work with, it’s the girls, hands down. To find out for ourselves and learn more about life on the girls’ hall, we follow two sisters who have cycled in and out of New York’s juvenile justice system. 

This is the fourth episode of “The Loop,” Ear Hustle’s six-part series about kids in New York City who are caught up, one way or another, in the criminal justice system. 

Ear Hustle would like to thank: Joanne Smith-Darden, Associate Professor, School of Social Work, Ruth T. Koehler Endowed Professor in Children's Services, Michigan State University and Co-Director, SPARK Lab; Heather McCauley, Associate Professor, School of Social Work, Michigan State University and Co-Director, SPARK Lab; and Adam Brown, Associate Professor, Silberman School of Social Work at Hunter College, City University of New York, for their tremendous support of this project. 

Big thanks, too, to the Drama Club team — including Josie Whittlesey, Cesar Rosado, Tiffany “Tiny” Cruz, Abby Pierce, Sophie Jones, and Ashley Adams. You can find out more about their work here.

And thanks to Nancy Ginsberg, Aylese Kanze, and Commissioner Danhauser at New York City’s Administration for Children’s Services for saying “yes” to this project.

As always, thanks to Warden Andes and Lt. Berry at San Quentin Rehabilitation Center; Acting Warden Parker, Associate Warden Lewis, and Lt. Newborg at the California Institution for Women; and Warden De La Cruz and Lt. Williams at the Central California Women’s Facility for their support of our work.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, Erlon here.

0:03.7

And Nigel.

0:04.5

In a year that's been really tough for public media, radio, and podcasting,

0:09.8

Radiotopia has stayed the course.

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As a community of independent podcasts, we welcome new shows into the fold.

0:16.3

Shout out to Proxy with Yo-Way Shaw, Selects, Try Hard, and Only If You Get Caught.

0:22.2

And together brought more than 400 episodes to our listeners.

0:25.9

Being part of Radiotopia means not only getting support from Radiotopia,

0:30.5

but we are in community with other creators who we admire, like our dear friends, the Kitchen Sisters.

0:36.1

We're even in community for the Radiotopia fundraiser.

0:39.7

Your generous gifts don't just support Ear Hustle.

0:42.5

They go to some of our favorite shows like home cooking and the stoop.

0:46.4

It's a real joy to be in this together with other creative audio makers

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whose work we really believe in.

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Two more important things.

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If you can donate before December 31st, your gift will be matched by a generous donor.

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That's huge.

1:10.1

Plus, when you donate, you'll be invited to our holiday mixtope on December 4th,

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where Radiotopia producers will share exclusive audio love letters about our favorite shows in the network.

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It's going to be really special, and we would love to see you there.

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