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The Bradley fighting vehicles on its way to Ukraine, 50 of them to be precise.

This armored personnel carrier on tracks is not a tank, don't call it a tank. Once

maligned as a boondoggle that represented everything wrong with the Pentagon weapons

programs, the Bradley is now a much desired

piece of armor. How did that happen? With us today to suss all this out is

Sebastian Roblin. Roblin is a freelance journalist whose work has appeared in NBC Forbes and of course war is boring.

Sebastian, thank you so much for coming on to the show.

Yeah, it's been such a pleasure, been a fan for many years now. So what is a Bradley fighting vehicle?

So yeah, when you use the term fighting vehicle, it doesn't necessarily say too much the average person but the

the operators of these things are really picky about the title but a good way to start with it to think is that this is an infantry fighting vehicle. It's meant to transport foot soldiers, but not only, because they actually just transporting foot soldiers that was done quite a bit, even in World War II, Vietnam.

You had the US used first half tracks during the Second World War,

and then these boxy rhombus-shaped M13s in Vietnam.

And they're basically like battle taxis. taxis like they help the troops get to the

the front line and you know they could take a little some small arms fire and probably the

the guys being transport inside are safe.

But once they really run into enemy heavy weapons,

they're in trouble.

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