She was having one bowel movement a month, despite taking four different laxatives at double the usual doses.

We'd pretty much given up, and I was doing an exit interview you might call it with her

and one last time asked her about stress in her life and she kind of misinterpreted my question

to mean way earlier in her life and began telling me about the fact that she'd been molested as a girl.

I had no idea why she chose to share this with me. I had no training about how to respond.

Fortunately, we had a psychiatrist who was in the building, so I got her involved with this woman's care and forgot all about her.

I didn't think anything was going to come of it. It was just kind of a last gasp. And about a couple

months later, I ran into Harriet, who was the psychiatrist in an elevator, looking for a way to make

a little conversation as we went up and asked her how this patient was doing.

And it turned out the patient was cured, which came as another huge shock to me, that you could

cure somebody with a severe, long-lasting physical illness that was completely real just by talking to somebody.

This is like mind, like body. was completely real just by talking to somebody.

This is like mind, like body. A podcast about the crazy ways our thoughts and feelings can actually shape our physical health.

I'm your host, Laura Sago, and each week I'll sit down with someone who knows way more about science than I do

to soak up their knowledge and help you achieve the best physical and mental well-being

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Clark. You already got a little preview of the crazy stories he has to tell, but trust me,

this guy has seen it all. He practiced

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