This is hard for Christians to swallow because they see that and they think, well, that's really

unjust. If a corporation is taking rights away or taking jobs away from workers for the sake

of their bottom line, well, that's wrong. It's like, okay, you're correct. That's wrong.

It doesn't change the outcome of what's actually playing out in the situation.

It's the same thing with abortion.

You can scream that it's wrong until you're blue in the face,

but it doesn't change the outcome of what happens when the woman takes the pill

or when she goes in for the procedure.

So it's difficult.

And this kind of, this ties in with the immigration and the

subsidiarity thing is that people have this idea of well this is what christian love should look

like it's like okay yes we have all these documents and all this church teaching about well

really you should love this type of person more than this person it should be for these reasons

and not for those reasons.

And it's like, okay, I hear you.

I hear what you're saying.

If I don't love my children first, then I'm neglecting my duties as a father.

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