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Welcome to Coffee House Shots, a spectator's daily politics podcast.

I'm Fraser Nutsson, and a few days ago Katie Balls and I interviewed Liz Truss, her first

interview since leaving number 10. It's now been released on Spectator TV and Katie joins

me to discuss it now with Kate Andres. Now, Katie asked her whether she was really the most

plausible person to be making the low-tax pro-growth argument, which now seems to be what she's

dedicating her political career towards.

Nobody would be more delighted than me, Katie. If there were lots of other people coming forward

of making these arguments, I would be more than delighted to have other people go out there

and make the case. But the fact is there aren't enough people making the case full stop.

So Katie, have we just heard the first of latest iteration of Liz Truss, the person who basically says

I tried to cut taxes, but the blob wouldn't let me.

Well, I think it's quite clear this is a new phase in Liz Truss's career and this interview

comes after that 4,000-word article in the Sunni Tategraph, where she began to outline some of

these arguments related to the OBR, what happened in the pension markets, that she now, after,

I think, what was been a period of three months relative silence, now does want to make a voice

heard. And because Liz Truss was saying, she doesn't interview in further detail,

lots of people have gone touch with her since she left 10, Downing Street, and said, you know,

you're writing your diagnosis. And I think from everything she said, she thinks that she has

diagnosed the correct problem, thinks the execution lacked finesse, I think that's one way of putting it,

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