The Living Libraries of West Africa
The Atlas Obscura Podcast
SiriusXM Podcasts & Atlas Obscura
4.6 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 6 November 2025
⏱️ 23 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | You might have heard of griots, the traditional African storytellers who memorize and pass down oral histories. |
| 0:08.0 | But they're much more than just documentarians. |
| 0:11.0 | Grios are the living embodiment of memory and culture, keepers of a community's collective identity. |
| 0:18.0 | Griot is the English term, and in West Africa, they're known as jellies. |
| 0:22.5 | The role is passed down through family lines, generation after generation. |
| 0:27.2 | Journalist Elliot Stein explored the tradition of the jellies, tracing it all the way back |
| 0:31.3 | to the Mali Empire. |
| 0:32.7 | And along the way, he tracked down a modern-day jelly, who was upholding and remixing |
| 0:36.9 | the tradition. |
| 0:38.5 | And he found him in a pretty unexpected place, working in a convenience store. |
| 0:44.5 | I'm Alexa Lim, and this is Atlas Obscira, a celebration of the world's strange, incredible, and wondrous places. |
| 0:50.8 | Today I'm talking with Elliot, who's traveled across the world reporting on rare and ancient traditions, |
| 0:56.2 | and he talks to the final custodians who are keeping them alive. |
| 0:59.8 | He chronicled it all in his book, Custodians of Wonder, ancient customs, profound traditions, and the last people keeping them alive. |
| 1:07.4 | Thanks for joining us, Elliot. |
| 1:09.1 | Thanks so much for having me. |
| 1:17.6 | What sparked your interest in exploring this tradition, this world, more deeply? Yeah, it's a great question. I sort of familiarized myself with a lot of these ancient wonders, and one day, actually one week, I went down a large rabbit hole of all of the UNESCO world |
| 1:29.6 | intangible cultural languages. It's kind of the best of what we have is humanity, right? So it's |
| 1:34.4 | everything from Argentine tango to Indian yoga, Neapolitan pizza. But there's one tradition |
| 1:41.7 | of the 678 that has been kept within a single family, and it's |
| 1:46.1 | the only one. |
| 1:47.5 | And this is the traditions that I set out to Chronicle, and as you said, it's very, very similar |
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