This is exactly right.

I'm Kate Winkler-Dawson. I'm a journalist who's spent the last 25 years writing about true crime.

And I'm Paul Holes, a retired cold case investigator whose work some of America's most complicated cases

and solve them.

Each week, I present Paul with one of history's most compelling true crimes.

And I weigh in using modern forensic techniques to bring new insights to old mysteries.

Together, using our individual expertise, we're examining historical true crime cases through a 21st century lens.

Some are solved and some are cold, very cold. This is buried bones.

Music Hi, Kate. Hey, Paul. You've been thinking about this case?

I have. It's an interesting one. Well, let me remind've been thinking about this case? I have.

It's an interesting one.

Well, let me remind people, you know, in case you've forgotten all these details, we are talking about what appears to be a serial killer case in 1945, Chicago.

It's called the Lipstick Killer Case.

Paul is not 100% convinced yet that these are all related or at least the last one,

which is a kidnapping so far. But we start with a woman named Josephine, who is found on her bed,

no obvious signs of sexual assault, but really brutalized or head tied up. And then some

strange items like her housecoat and some towels

and a douchebag found in her bathtub that has a little bit of water in it. And then about six

months later, we have a woman named Frances who is found in her apartment also. And it sounds

like she has been stripped naked.

She is leaning over the bathtub, knees up against the bathtub and sort of leaning over.

She's been shot.

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