Hello and welcome to the Thinking Fellows podcast.

My name is Caleb Keith.

And today I am joined by Scott Keith and Adam Francisco.

The drones in New Jersey got Bruce.

They targeted his apartment building and he's lost power and internet.

So hopefully you've survived this, Bruce.

Hopefully you're not abducted by the aliens in New Jersey and we'll see you next week.

But the show must go on.

Okay, so today we're doing a topic that I thought would be good for the two of you

and is sort of, I think, interesting

sort of definitionally, and then we can get to maybe this is an irrelevant distinction or

something like that, but I am curious when it comes to Christians navigating the world,

navigating culture, politics, vocation.

I think this could be a long list of things that are essentially not things in their life,

which they must navigate, which are not the Church of the Gospel, is epistemology,

a better or more useful category or even subject to study and train in,

then worldview.

And the reason I ask this is worldview gets used, I think, the most commonly to describe

Christians having to think and engage with what in not what we might call non-Christian

spaces, whether those are intellectual spaces or whatever. And that when you do that, you bring a

quote, Christian worldview. And that's a combat with a maybe secular worldview or an Islamic worldview or whatever.

And I'm increasingly wondering if this is a useful category, actually,

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