The Leverage Economy: The 285th Evolutionary Lens with Bret Weinstein and Heather Heying

DarkHorse Podcast

Bret Weinstein & Heather Heying

Natural Sciences, Society & Culture, News, Adaptation, Modernity, Culture, Politics, Science, Evolutionary Biology

4.6 • 5.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 July 2025

⏱️ 96 minutes

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Today we discuss Epstein, Trump, MAGA, and how we know what we think we know. The actual economy exists, as does the attention economy; now Bret introduces a new term: the leverage economy. This implies that there is a commodity that we cannot see, which can be used to coerce players to act in certain ways. We see evidence of this in academia, in the news, and in politics. Discussion includes data mining, conspiracy, and whether Trump will pick up neocons as he loses some of his base. ***** ...

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0:00.0	Hey folks, welcome to the Dark Horse podcast live stream number 285, if I'm not mistaken.
0:14.7	285, here we go.
0:15.7	25 it is.
0:16.3	I am Dr. Brett Weinstein.
0:17.5	You are Dr. Heather Heying.
0:19.8	Very strange moment here on planet Earth.
0:21.9	I don't know if that extends further into the galaxy, but it's weird and getting weirder.
0:27.7	I mean, I think from our perspective, it's probably always been strange on Mars, Venus, Mercury, the outer planets, for sure.
0:36.1	Unconforter.
0:36.8	It just gets weirder from our perspective, the farther out you go from the conditions in which we evolved.
0:42.5	Yeah, I'd take that.
0:43.2	This is a rate of change issue, though.
0:44.8	It is the level of weirdness per hour, which as far as I know doesn't change very much on the other planets.
0:50.2	Yeah.
0:50.7	No, I think both you and I had a substantial and totally separate interest in Jupiter,
0:57.0	for instance, when we were growing up. And as far as I know, Jupiter, while that, you know,
1:01.5	that massive storm continues to royal, I don't think that there are accelerations in the rate
1:08.1	of change on Jupiter. Maybe I'm wrong. We'll be corrected if so.
1:11.1	Yeah.
1:12.8	Total obsession of Jupiter.
1:13.5	Yeah.
1:16.5	In my case, I guess you had a similar phenomenon.
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