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This is the political scene, a weekly conversation with New Yorker writers and editors about politics.

It's Friday, April 3rd. I'm Dorothy Wickendon, executive editor of The New Yorker writers and editors about politics. It's Friday, April 3rd. I'm Dorothy

Wickenden, executive editor of The New Yorker. In December, President Obama was asked whether the U.S.

had become more racially divided during his presidency. It's understandable that polls might say,

you know, that race relations have gotten worse worse because when it's in the news and you

see something like Ferguson or the Garner case in New York, then it attracts attention. But I assure

you from the perspective of African Americans or Latinos in poor communities who have been

dealing with this all their lives, they wouldn't suggest somehow that it's

worse now than it was 10, 15 or 20 years ago.

Next week marks the 150th anniversary of the end of the Civil War.

Two American historians are with me today, Eric Foner and Jelani Cobb, to talk about the current

state of race relations in light of the recurrent

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