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The Lawfare Podcast

The Legacy of Madeleine Albright, with Kori Schake and Natalie Orpett

The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Institute

Military, Intelligence, International Law, Constitutional Law, Rule Of Law, Politics, International Relations, News, Government, History, Diplomacy, Terrorism, National Security, Current Events, Law, Foreign Policy

4.76.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2022

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Madeleine Albright passed away on March 23. She was the first woman to serve as secretary of state in United States history, and she had a long legacy, both from her time as secretary and beyond. To talk through what made her special and what her impact was, David Priess sat down with Kori Schake and Natalie Orpett. Kori is the director of Foreign and Defense Policy Studies at the American Enterprise Institute, and she worked in the Department of Defense, the Department of State and the National Security Council staff. Natalie Orpett is the executive editor of Lawfare, and she worked with Secretary Albright as her executive assistant after she had left the Department of State. They talked about some of the foreign policy developments during Secretary Albright's tenure; about her personal relationships, including with those with whom she did not agree; and about her legacy when it comes to helping women in national security positions.

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One of the real accomplishments and it often gets overlooked in Secretary Albright.

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Jesse Helms was the chairman of the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee.

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And she built a positive, constructive, forward-looking relationship with him

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that most of us would have thought impossible given their political, cultural and many other kinds of differences.

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