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The Lawfare Podcast

Paul Massaro on the United States’ Latest Efforts to Combat Corruption

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4.76.2K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2022

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

On June 3, President Biden issued a national security memorandum that established the “Fight Against Corruption” as a core national security interest for the United States. The memo described the staggering costs of corruption, with it being “estimated that acts of corruption sap between 2 and 5 percent from global gross domestic product.” The memo also directed U.S. officials to develop a comprehensive presidential strategy focused on anti-corruption.

Alvaro Marañon sat down with Paul Massaro, the senior policy advisor for counter-kleptocracy at the Helsinki Commission, to speak about the United States government's latest anti-corruption efforts following the June memo. They discussed the latest developments in the efforts to combat corruption, details around the first-ever presidential strategy on anti-corruption and the kinds of messages these unified efforts send to other authoritarian regimes beyond Russia. 

For more on this topic, consider watching “Countering Oligarchs, Enablers, and Lawfare,” a hearing on Wednesday, April 6, at 2:30 p.m., hosted by the Helsinki Commission.


Disclaimer: Paul Massaro serves on the staff of the U.S. Helsinki Commission. The views expressed here are his own and do not represent an official position of the U.S. government.

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for dogs.

1:08.5

For the longest time, we've been stuck in this almost country-centric idea of corruption.

1:14.0

This has perpetuated a lot by kind of like transparency international's corruption perceptions

1:18.0

index.

1:19.0

This idea that corruption is something that countries have, there are corrupt countries,

1:21.9

and there are sort of clean transparent countries.

1:25.5

This is not a good way to think about corruption in the lot of it.

1:29.0

All of corruption is connected.

1:30.7

Corruption is really, one needs to think about it more in the form of corrupt networks

1:34.4

that transition through different countries.

1:37.3

Corrupt networks will include a single network.

1:40.2

Just a single network will include a CCP operative, a Russian oligarch, a German businessman,

1:45.9

a British lawyer and an American lobbyist.

1:48.7

All in one network that will all be working together essentially with different goals.

1:54.2

I'm Alvaro Maranyom, and this is the Lawford Podcast, April 5, 2022.

2:01.4

On June 3, President Biden issued a National Security Memorandum that established the fight

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