The Legacy of Clare with Sr. Margaret Carney

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 723 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2025

⏱️ 78 minutes

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What or whom do you want to reflect out into the world? Today we're exploring the 9th Chapter from Richard's book Eager to Love, entitled, "The Legacy of Clare: Living the Life at Depth." In this conversation, CAC hosts are joined by the dynamic Sister Margaret Carney, who shares her deep connection to Franciscan spirituality and journey into religious life, highlighting the joy and challenges of living out these ideals. She discusses the significance of Clare of Assisi's commitment to place and community, the metaphor of the mirror in Clare's teachings, and the unique contributions Clare made beyond the shadow of Francis. The conversation also touches on the themes of downward mobility, the role of conversion in Franciscan spirituality, and how we can live out Clare's example in today's world. Margaret Carney, OSF, STD is a member of the Sisters of St. Francis of the Neumann Communities. She holds degrees in education and theology from Duquesne University, a degree in Franciscan Studies from St. Bonaventure University and a doctorate from the Pontifical University Antonianum in Rome. Primary themes of her teaching focus on early Franciscan women, the history of the Third Order Regular and the challenges of Franciscan collaboration in the current era. She resides in Pittsburgh and continues to serve through various committees and boards of higher education and Franciscan service. Among her many honors she includes the Monika K. Hellwig Award of the Association of Catholic Colleges and Universities and the Pro Pontifice et Ecclesiae Award given by Pope Francis in 2016. Hosted by CAC Staff: Mike Petrow, Paul Swanson, and Drew Jackson Resources: A PDF of the transcript for this episode can be found here. Grab a copy of Eager to Love here. Pick up Sr. Margaret Carney's book, Light of Assisi: The Story of Saint Clare, here.

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more, visit
0:05.5	cac.org.
0:07.6	Hey, everyone. Welcome to Everything Belongs, where we seek to live the teachings of Richard
0:12.8	Rour forward. Today, we are talking about Richard's book, Eager to Love, the Alternative
0:19.0	Way of Francis of Assisi, and we're focused on chapter nine the legacy
0:23.2	of Claire living the life at depth and a lot of you are reading along here with us but there's no
0:30.0	pressure to do so if you're just absorbing these conversations you can still get to the depth
0:35.8	and the marrow of this book through listening to these conversations.
0:40.3	And I'm so grateful here to be with Drew Jackson. Drew, how are you doing today?
0:45.3	I'm doing okay, Paul. How are you?
0:47.3	I'm good. I'm good. I love these chances for us to talk about this work and hear how it hits us from the various
0:54.8	angles of insight of the Franciscan tradition. I would love to know since, you know, in the
1:00.5	latter half of the conversation, you and I are in conversation with Sister Margaret Carney,
1:05.5	an expert on Claire Vassisi. But how about you? When did you first come to know Claire Vassisi? Was she right there
1:12.1	alongside Francis when you first entered the Franciscan spiritual tradition? You know, I heard about
1:18.5	Francis in seminary and I heard about Claire very kind of peripherally. Like it wasn't a focus, which seems to be on point with the way that
1:32.9	Claire is introduced into this conversation with Francis as this side character in the story.
1:39.8	Though as you get into hearing more about Claire and her story, you realize how central she is to
1:45.8	the whole thing. But it really wasn't until reading Richard's book, Eager to Love, that Claire
1:52.4	started to become more in focus and in view for me as I thought about Franciscan spirituality.
1:59.2	Yeah, I love that. I think that's the experience of so many of us,
2:02.1	where we kind of first learn of Claire, it's almost like a sidekick, and then you start to
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