Entering the World of Another with Omid Safi

Everything Belongs: Living the Teachings of Richard Rohr Forward

Center for Action and Contemplation

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8 • 723 Ratings

🗓️ 31 January 2025

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

How can we build solidarity and connection with people of different faiths and cultures? Today on Everything Belongs, Father Richard Rohr guides us through Chapter 10 of his book, Eager to Love, "Entering the World of Another: Francis and the Sultan of Egypt." Hosts Mike Petrow and Drew Jackson then engage in a profound conversation with Brother Omid Safi about the essence of love in Islam, and the role of poetry and language in navigating spiritual and interfaith dialogues. Brother Omid and our hosts delve into the intersections of spirituality, and how learning from different traditions can enrich our own spiritual journey. The three explore the significance of the encounter between Saint Francis and the Sultan as a model for compassion and dialogue, as well as the the need for a unified approach to spirituality that transcends divisions. Brother Omid Safi is a teacher in the Sufi tradition of Radical Love and Founder of Illuminated Courses & Tours. He is currently a professor at Duke University specializing in Islamic spirituality and contemporary thought. A leading Muslim public intellectual, Omid is committed to the intersection of spirituality and social justice. His most recent book is Radical Love: Teachings from the Islamic Mystical Tradition. Hosted by CAC Staff: Mike Petrow, Paul Swanson, and Drew Jackson Resources: A transcript for this episode can be found here. Grab a copy of Eager to Love here. Learn more about the work of Brother Omid Safi here. Listen to Brother Omid's podcast, Sufi Heart, here.

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0:00.0	You're listening to a podcast by the Center for Action and Contemplation. To learn more, visit cac.org.
0:07.6	Hey, friends, welcome back to the Everything Belongs podcast. Just a reminder, this is a podcast where we go through the works of fathered Richard Rora this season. We're looking at the book, Eager to Love the Alternative Way of Francis of Assisi. You absolutely do not have to read the book to get a
0:24.8	lot out of these episodes as we have such rich conversations with Richard and some guests that help us
0:29.7	live the teachings forward. But I will say whether you've read the book or not, this week is one of
0:34.9	my all-time favorite chapters and one of my favorite discussions that we put together
0:39.2	for this season entering the world of another Francis and the Sultan of Egypt. Before we jump into
0:44.3	that, my good friend Paul Swanson, it is good to see you today. My friend is good to see you.
0:50.4	How are you doing this morning as we dive into this wonderful conversation on this chapter that we
0:55.7	kind of both get hooked into about how moving and the ripple effect of what it teaches us in
1:02.4	our times today yeah man what a good series of conversations we have coming up and then thinking
1:08.9	back to our episode with father adam bucko and
1:12.2	cairo jewelingo in the integration of the negative i'm i'm thrilled to be here with you and i'm excited
1:17.3	about what we're talking about and i'm also a little bit sick so a little bit under the weather this
1:22.7	morning hoping to be on the men soon and i i know i'm not alone in that how are you feeling my friend
1:27.3	well you can't hear it in that how are you feeling my friend well
1:28.5	you can't hear it in my voice as you can in years but I'm also in the recovery stages of
1:33.3	being thrown to the curb by sickness and having it run through the old family so I'm excited to
1:38.9	be here with you and in a space where we get a chance to to dig in a little bit to help set the scene for what listeners
1:46.0	are going to enter. Because, yeah, I think Francis and the Sultan, the story just is so vivid
1:53.0	and brings so much to the table about how we think about interreligious dialogue, interreligious
1:59.4	action, welcoming one another into our traditions and a posture of humility.
2:04.8	What's coming to mind for you? What sparked you in this episode?
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