Before we get into this week's episode, a quick question. Have you joined us over on Substack yet?

If not, then consider this your personal invitation. Head over to chasingexcellance.

Email, sign up. It's free. It's the best way to get even more out of these episodes,

out of Chasing Excellence. You can get listener guides, essays, challenges, and more.

The link is in the episode description, so it's just a quick tap.

We would love to see you over there.

Okay, onward.

Hello and welcome back to the show.

I am Patrick.

And there's always with Ben.

We're joined this week our new friend Trevor Reagan. How are you, Trevor? How are you, Ben? Doing great. Doing good over here. Trevor, thank you so much for being here with us. We, Ben and I sort of stumbled upon your website not too long ago, the learner lab.com. We thought it was great. We reached out. You were kind enough to agree to come on the show.

And so we're excited to talk to you and get to know you a little bit. I'd love to know a little bit more about you and a little bit more about the learner lab. Can you tell us about it?

Yeah. I started about 14 years ago. And originally it was just a blog where I'd interview authors and coaches and make little posts

and videos about what I learned.

At first it was mostly sports related, basically like, how do we become better coaches?

How do we create better drills?

And like, through the years of doing that, I realized like, oh, what I'm learning isn't just about how to make better basketball drills.

This is some principles of learning in general.

It's bigger than one particular sport.

And it's bigger than sports.

And so, yeah, it's been 14 years.

I tell people I spend half of my time learning and half of my time teaching.

...