The Lawfare Podcast, Special Edition: Not Firing Bob Mueller
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 26 January 2018
⏱️ 36 minutes
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Summary
The New York Times Thursday evening is reporting that back in June, President Trump tried to fire Special Counsel Robert Mueller—but couldn't quite pull it off. We, however, pulled off a special edition of the podcast to go over the story. Joining Benjamin Wittes on the recorded conference call (pardon the audio quality) were Lawfare contributors Jack Goldsmith, Steve Vladeck, Carrie Cordero, and Bob Bauer.
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| 0:44.5 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast special edition January 25, 2018. |
| 0:52.1 | The New York Times this evening broke a remarkable story. |
| 0:56.6 | Reporters Maggie Haberman and Mike Schmidt report that Donald Trump back in June decided |
| 1:04.0 | to fire special counsel Bob Mueller and ordered him fired only to be pushed back upon by his |
| 1:12.9 | White House counsel Don McGann who threatened to resign rather than carry out the order. |
| 1:19.6 | This prompted Trump to back down and Bob Mueller is today still the special counsel in |
| 1:28.2 | the Russia matter. |
| 1:31.2 | We are joined by Jack Goldsmith, Bob Bauer, Carrie Cordero, Steve Vlatic. |
| 1:39.7 | Let's dive into it right away. |
| 1:44.5 | Steve get us started. |
| 1:45.7 | What are your reactions to this story? |
| 1:48.7 | I guess my initial reaction to the story is that the only thing I find surprising about |
| 1:53.8 | it is how unsurprising it really is. |
| 1:56.3 | I think we at all I suspect thought for a while that this was certainly something that |
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