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The Lawfare Podcast

The Lawfare Podcast Bonus Edition: Vindman and Williams vs The Committee with No Bull

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4.76.4K Ratings

🗓️ 20 November 2019

⏱️ 164 minutes

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Summary

On the morning of Nov. 20, the committee heard testimony from Lt. Col. Alexander Vindman, U.S. Army officer and the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, and Jennifer Williams, a foreign service officer detailed to the Vice President's staff.

We have taken out all the unnecessary speeches, partisan bickering, and repetition to bring you just the portions of the testimony you need to hear.

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0:00.0

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Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair

0:25.6

no bull and the aftermath.

0:30.0

I'm Alana Kagan and this is the LawFair podcast November 19, 2019.

0:36.1

It was an impeachment double header today in the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

0:40.6

In the morning, the Committee heard testimony from Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman,

0:44.6

US Army officer and the top Ukraine expert on the National Security Council, and from

0:49.1

Jennifer Williams, a foreign service officer detailed to the Vice President's staff.

0:53.8

In the afternoon, the Committee heard from Tim Morrison, the former senior director for

0:57.5

Europe and Russia at the National Security Council, and Kurt Volcker, the former US special

1:02.3

envoy to Ukraine.

1:04.4

It was a lot to pack into one day, but we here at LawFair have taken out all the unnecessary

1:08.7

speeches, partisan bickering, and repetition to bring you just the portions of the testimony

1:13.6

that you need to hear.

1:15.4

It's the LawFair podcast bonus edition, impeachment hearings day three with no bull, part

1:20.6

one.

1:21.9

I now recognize myself for Majority Council for the first 45 minutes.

1:28.2

Before we get into the substance of your testimony, Ms. Williams, I want to ask you about a phone

1:34.4

call between Vice President Pence and President Zelensky of Ukraine on September 18.

1:40.7

Were you on that call?

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