Sen. Mark Warner and Rep. Jim Himes on Catching the Cybercriminal
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🗓️ 20 November 2019
⏱️ 74 minutes
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On Monday, Benjamin Wittes moderated a discussion with Senator Mark Warner and Representative Jim Himes at NYU Law School as part of the "Catching the Cybercriminal: Reforming Global Law Enforcement" conference sponsored by the Center for Cybersecurity at NYU, the Journal of National Security Law and Policy, and Third Way. Sen. Warner is the vice chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee and the co-founder of the Senate Cybersecurity Caucus, and Rep. Himes is a member of the House Intelligence Committee. They talked about the state of cybercrime, whether cybercriminals could be caught, and what more law enforcement in the United States should be doing to curb malicious cyberattacks.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:55.6 | In terms of social media, I would argue again, an America of 20 years ago, we would have |
| 1:05.3 | already set the rules and protocols. |
| 1:08.5 | Our retreat again from that kind of leadership, I think is significant. |
| 1:13.1 | So we've, you know, the Europeans have already moved forward on privacy, the California's |
| 1:18.0 | moved forward, Nevada's moved forward, the Brits and the Australians are moving forward |
| 1:21.5 | on content. |
| 1:22.5 | But there are a variety of tools in terms of rules of the road around social media platforms |
| 1:28.5 | that indirectly get at this issue very briefly. |
| 1:31.0 | I think we ought to know what data is being collected about us and what it's worth. |
| 1:35.2 | Do again, educate Americans that Facebook and Google are not free. |
| 1:39.5 | They are giant sucking sounds of information and they put value on that. |
| 1:43.1 | Let's at least let Americans know what that value is. |
| 1:46.1 | Let's let us have the ability to know whether we're being communicated with by a human |
| 1:49.7 | being versus a bot. |
| 1:50.7 | Again, there's nothing wrong with a bot, but we ought to have that data point. |
| 1:56.6 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the Law Fair Podcast. |
| 2:02.5 | We are in front of a live audience at NYU Law School with the New York University Center |
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