The Lawfare Podcast Bonus Edition: Jessica Stern on Radovan Karadzic

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🗓️ 20 February 2020

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Jessica Stern, who served on the National Security Council during the Clinton administration, has a remarkable skill: she interviews really bad people, and she writes about them in really interesting ways. She spent quite a bit of time interviewing Bosnian-Serb war criminal Radovan Karadzic, who is serving a life sentence at the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal in The Hague for genocide in connection with the Bosnian conflict in the 1990s. Their conversations led to the publication of the book, "My War Criminal: Personal Encounters with an Architect of Genocide," which triggered a remarkable outpouring of rage at Jessica Stern. Benjamin Wittes spoke with Jessica recently about the book, the controversy, and her general approach to talking to evil men.

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0:00.0	The following podcast contains advertising to access an ad-free version of the LawFair
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0:18.2	Also, check out LawFair's other podcast offerings, rational security, chatter, LawFair
0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:55.6	What made it possible for him to persuade ordinary people to kill their neighbors?
1:25.6	I'm Benjamin Witties and this is the LawFair podcast bonus edition Feb.
1:55.5	February 19th 2020.
1:58.8	Jessica Stern is an old friend.
2:02.1	We go back a long ways.
2:04.0	She served on the National Security Council during the Clinton administration and we got
2:09.4	to know each other because we had a similar interest in biological weapons back before they
2:15.0	were cool.
2:16.4	Jessica has a remarkable skill.
2:19.8	The interviews really bad people and she writes about them in really interesting ways and
2:26.1	she spent a lot of time with Bosnian Serb War Criminal, Rodovan Karajic, who is serving
2:33.3	a life sentence for genocide in connection with the Bosnian conflict in the 1990s at the
2:40.8	Yugoslav War Cribune in the Hague.
2:44.5	Our conversations led to the publication of the book My War Criminal, Personal Encounters
2:50.4	with an Architect of Genocide which triggered a remarkable outpouring of rage at Jessica
2:57.6	Stern.
2:58.8	She joined me remotely the other day to discuss the book, the controversy and her general
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