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Amicus With Dahlia Lithwick | Law, justice, and the courts - The Law v Lawless Edition

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🗓️ 10 September 2022

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Dahlia is joined by Mary Trump and Norm Ornstein to discuss how a single Trump-appointed judge’s attempt to stick a fork in the Justice Department’s criminal investigation into potential mishandling of classified materials is part of a systemic story about American justice. And they discuss the kinds of reform needed to protect democracy and repair the judiciary. And how to handle our collective trauma so we can get it all done.

In this week’s Amicus Plus segment, Dahlia is joined by Mark Joseph Stern to talk about lawlessness at Mar a Lago, whether lawlessness at Mar-a-Lago, the Texas judge whose order this week nominally aims to cut access to HIV preventative medications, but is also setting his sights (again) on cratering the Affordable Care Act, and they probe if the current outbreak of reckless judging can be inoculated or will continue to spread unchecked.

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He finds enablers in the judiciary everywhere.

0:11.7

One of the few positive things Donald has done is shine a very bright light on the extent to which all of our systems are broken and the ways in which

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they're weak.

0:28.8

Hi and welcome back to Amicus.

0:31.1

This is Slate's podcast about the courts and the law, the Supreme Court, and suddenly the law

0:36.0

of special masters.

0:38.0

I'm Dahlia Lithwick. I cover the law for Slate.

0:41.0

And even though on this show, we've spent the summer gorging on great books,

0:45.2

we are not blind to the fact that the former president to the United States kept classified documents at his golf club,

0:52.8

refused to return them, lied about it, and may or may not

0:56.1

have exposed, like, you know, sources and methods as well as nuclear secrets of allies or

1:01.5

enemies, as one does in the summer. This show returns thus to an old favorite theme,

1:08.7

The Law of Trump, or does such a thing even exist?

1:12.2

Later on in the show, Slate Plus subscribers will delight to the dulcet tones of our own Mark

1:19.4

Joseph Stern as he and I review some of the week's lawlessness at Mar-a-Lago, a judicial order

1:26.1

from Texas that seemingly implicates HIV drugs, but actually

1:30.1

tries to crater the ACA again. And we probe whether reckless judging is in fact contagious.

1:37.0

That conversation with Mark can only be accessed by Slate Plus members. If you'd like to join us

1:42.9

and have access to bonus segments from lots

1:45.9

of your favorite Slate shows, completely add free episodes, and if never hitting a paywall for any

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of Slate's articles, sounds good to you too. Do go to slate.com slash amicus plus to sign up. That's slate.com

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slash amicus plus. And thank you, by the way, for

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