My wife and I started going to a beautiful Byzantine church

because we were surrounded by several very, very unimpressive

novice auto churches.

I'm adopting an Eastern tradition that's not the tradition of my forefathers,

but I felt like I had no other choice.

And now I see this, and I'm like, why did they take this from us?

Exactly.

The church historian is faced with the enormity of telling a story about the 20th century church that nobody sane would be able to believe.

I want to talk about what happened after the Second Vatican Council. you just said how overnight, essentially, these

things changed. I see myself as a faithful critic, as a son who wants to say, you know,

Dad, it's really, it's really problematic down here. We need help.

Good day, welcome to Pines with Aquinas.

Today I speak to Dr. Peter Kwasnevsky.

We spoke for almost four hours, and it was an absolutely riproarer of a show.

It really felt like 20 minutes.

It was, yeah, very engaging and you're going to love it. And I think if you listen to 20

minutes, you'll probably think this is amazing. It just kept getting better. Dr. Kwasniewski has done a

lot of study in this area. We talk about the liturgy, the development of the liturgy, what happened

after the Second Vatican Council, the state of the traditional Latin

mass today, regardless of your opinion on this topic, I hope you will have an open mind and an

open heart to listen to what he has to say, because as I say, Dr. Kosniewski has been writing and

studying this topic for a long time, and I know it'll be beneficial no matter where you fall.

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