The Last Great Pandemic with John M. Barry

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.6 • 8.9K Ratings

🗓️ 7 April 2020

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

What did we learn from the last great pandemic? You don’t have to dig deep into the 1918 influenza before finding eerie similarities to today – be it the White House downplaying the severity of the virus or the social distancing measures recommended by public health officials. Author John M. Barry’s meticulously researched account of the 1918 pandemic in his book “The Great Influenza” was so affecting that it inspired then President George W. Bush to develop a comprehensive pandemic plan after reading it. There’s no one better to discuss the similarities and differences to what played out a century ago – and the far reaching reverberations this moment will have – than John M. Barry. RELATED READING: The Great Influenza by John M. Barry The Single Most Important Lesson From the 1918 Influenza by John M. Barry

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0:00.0	What happens in any disease, any infectious disease,
0:03.3	is depending on the course of that pathogen
0:06.5	in an individual's body.
0:08.5	What happens in a pandemic is the course of that pathogen
0:12.7	through the entire society.
0:15.5	Hello and welcome to Wise is happening with me, your host, Chris Hayes.
0:23.0	Hopefully my voice sounds better now than it did last week.
0:27.4	We're slowly adjusting to the new reality.
0:30.8	I'm podcasting in a closet like you do.
0:33.0	Hopefully you get a nice kind of close and intimate sound, not Roomy Echo.
0:37.0	My faithful audio engineer and assistant and co-pilot and all things.
0:41.5	K-Chaw has been helping me.
0:43.2	We've got a good microphone set up here.
0:44.8	So hopefully all is good.
0:46.6	And you know, we took your feedback last week about whether you were
0:50.3	chomping of the bit from more coronavirus content or whether you wanted
0:53.2	to escape from coronavirus content.
0:55.1	And we got a mixed bag.
0:56.3	Some people saying like, I want to get away from it.
0:58.5	Some people saying, yes, I want more, but not just the stuff you do in the news.
1:01.4	So today we have something that I think sort of perfectly fits
1:05.1	in the middle of those two places.
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