With new cases of COVID declining, are we really seeing COVID dwindle? Or is this the calm before the next wave? The expert’s expert Christina Pagel of independent SAGE joins us to explain whether we really are turning the corner. Plus, what does the Tories’ ‘Advisory Board’ tell us about cronyism, nepotism and how our governing party preserves its privilege? Ete operae pretium sit Latine discendi? “It’s fair to say that nobody was expecting the decline in COVID infections… What this ISN’T is herd immunity emerging.” – Christina Pagel “Relations with France are as bad as they’ve ever been… We’re danger of becoming a country that nobody can do business with at all.” – Alex Andreou “State aid could well become another way for friends and colleagues of the Conservative party to enrich themselves – enabled again by Brexit.” – Ros Taylor “After Spanish Flu in 1918 there was a mini-epidemic of Parkinson’s. We just don’t know the risk of NOT vaccinating.” – Christina Pagel www.patreon.com/ohgodwhatnow Presented by Ros Taylor with Ian Dunt and Alex Andreou. Produced by Andrew Harrison. Assistant producers: Jacob Archbold and Jelena Sofronijevic. Audio production by Alex Rees. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices