Hello and welcome to O-God What Now. I'm Dorian Litzky. Let's meet the Cowering panel.

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Boris Johnson unveiled a new crime initiative saying that chain gangs of offenders doing community service

would discourage anti-social behaviour and that stop and search, which is being extended,

is actually kind in a loving thing to do as people have been stopped and searched often say.

The police federation has smacked it down in a furious letter, which is well worth a read.

Behind the kind of come on chaps blather, what is the substance of this bill and why the police are annoyed?

Oh no, there's not much substance there at all really. It's all these sort of kind of new labourish

eye grabbing initiatives. New labour would always have this as well, you know, as bow and then we'll march you down to the cash point.

You have to take the money out and of course none of it would work even if it did happen.

And so it's a series of ideas like that, you know, so alcohol tests for people who involved in drunk and disorderly conduct,

tags for thieves, the gang chain thing. I mean, it's pretty much without any substance whatsoever.

And the police are largely upset mostly because they haven't had a pay rise. They haven't been consulted.

Neither they nor the crime prosecution service nor the courts nor the prisons,

or probation service have really had any sort of significant funding. In fact, I've mostly been taking away since austerity.

You know the way things about the stuff is when you talk to criminologists, it's not like tough, sort of,

law and order stuff, doesn't always a failure. There's some scenarios in which it can kind of work.

It doesn't really work on sentencing. Like most of the evidence shows on sentencing,

someone that's about to commit a crime doesn't really pay an awful lot of attention to what the potential sentences.

They do pay attention to things like likelihood of getting caught.

So actually, on a way that's kind of uncomfortable for some liberals, like stuff like CCTV can make a difference.

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