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The Language Of Control w/Sue Winter

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Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 26 July 2023

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Sue Winter is a modern linguist who holds two graduate degrees, one from the University of London, and another from UWE Bristol. She taught for over 44 years in a variety of settings in both mainstream and specialist teams for vulnerable young people. Sue has multiple cultic experiences from religious to corporate to interpersonal, including both parental and spousal abuse. She became involved in Fruitful Vine Ministries, an Australian charismatic group, led by a female apostle prophet. After leaving that group she unknowingly “cult hopped” volunteering for a UK-based commercial hiking company which she only recently realized was employing many cult-like practices. She is now an E.S.O.L examiner and a group leader for a U.S. not-for-profit organization. Sue has a passion for language and speaks French, Spanish, German, Catalan, and Arabic. In this complex and engaging discussion, Sue opens up to Rachel about the plethora of cultic experiences she endured throughout her lifetime. Together they draw connections between the various high-control situations she found herself in. Rahel and Sue go on to point out the commonalities of Sue's experiences, pointing out the similarity in the methods of control. Before You Go: Rachel examines the resilience of those who survive multiple cult experiences and offers her insights on how to stay conscious of the potential to "Cult Hop" All of Rachel's free informational PDF documents are available here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/pdf.html All of Rachel's video lectures are available for purchase here: www.rachelbernsteintherapy.com/webinar.html To help support the show monthly and get bonus episodes, shirts, and tote bags, please visit: www.patreon.com/indoctrination Prefer to support the IndoctriNation show with a one-time donation? Use this link: www.paypal.me/indoctrination Connect with us on Social Media: Twitter: twitter.com/_indoctrination Facebook: www.facebook.com/indoctrinationpodcast Tik Tok: www.tiktok.com/@indoctrinationpodcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/indoctrinationpodcast/ YouTube: www.youtube.com/rachelbernsteinlmft You can always help the show for free by leaving a rating on Spotify or a review on Apple/ iTunes. It really helps the visibility of the show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands

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0:00.0

Welcome to indoctrination, a weekly conversation series about protecting yourself from systems of control.

0:11.1

I'm your host, Rachel Bernstein.

0:13.5

Hi, everyone. I am so happy to be talking to you this week. So much is happening all over the world, as always, actually, but so much is

0:24.2

happening now. And I wanted to mention that I noticed there were a lot of listeners this past week

0:33.5

in Russia and Poland. And again, as always, be in touch. Let me know what speaks to you in those

0:42.2

parts of the world. That's very meaningful to me because of my family history in that region

0:47.9

from Ukraine and Belarus and Russia and Poland and all my ancestors, a few generations back from there.

0:58.5

And so this is very nice, very lovely for me.

1:02.6

And so please be in touch.

1:15.1

And for today, we have Sue Winter.

1:17.2

She is an impressive woman.

1:22.7

She is a modern linguist who holds two graduate degrees, one from the University of London and another from UWE Bristol.

1:26.1

She taught for over 44 years in a variety of settings in both

1:29.5

mainstream and specialist teams for vulnerable young people. Sue has multiple cultic

1:34.8

experiences from religious to corporate to interpersonal, including both parental and

1:40.5

spousal abuse. She became involved in fruitful vine ministries in Australian charismatic

1:46.4

group led by a female apostle prophet. After leaving that group, she unknowingly, quote-unquote,

1:53.5

cult-hopped, volunteering for a UK-based commercial hiking company, which she only recently realized,

2:00.0

was employing many cult-like practices.

2:02.8

She is now an ESOL examiner and a group leader for a U.S. non-profit organization.

2:08.5

She has a passion for language and speaks French, Spanish, German, Catalan, and Arabic.

2:23.4

Today, though, she'll be speaking English with me, and I'm so happy to have you hear her.

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