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Thank you so much, M. for coming back on the show so that we could spend some more time talking and getting into some of the things that you didn't have a chance to cover because there's so much to talk about and you have so many great insights and there's so much to share.

And we want to be able to kind of go back in time, talk a little bit more about

your life earlier on and your healing since coming out of this group. So for those who didn't

get to hear your introduction last time, can you take a sec and spend a moment or two just

introducing yourself? I'm M. Thomas and I am a survivor of a group

called The Way International, founded by Dr. Victor Paul Werewolf, and then taken over by Craig

Martindale, who was in leadership for the duration of my childhood, who was, in fact, a pretty

scary guy. He got really, really unhinged during my time in the

way. So after living through that for 15 years, we were Mark and a Void, which is excommunicated,

and the whole world dropped out from under us. But what I didn't know at the time is that that very well might have saved my life in a lot of ways.

And I was able to find healing and move on into living a very authentic life.

I am out and proud.

I've been married for many years.

I love my wife.

I'm a business owner. I'm a homeowner. I have a wonderful found family. And, you know, I'm really excited to be telling this story,

especially here on the tail end of Pride Month, which I know this is going to come on after Pride,

but Pride never stops. My life has lived in direct opposition and defiance of how I was raised.

So I'm really excited to talk about both the scary things and also the great things that came along

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