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The Fall Line: True Crime

The Landscape Shifts: Change Comes to Forensic IGG

The Fall Line: True Crime

The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC

True Crime, News

4.64.4K Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2026

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

Regular guest and Accredited Investigative Genetic Genealogist (AIGG) Cairenn Binder speaks with us about a current event that has shaken up the world of Forensic Investigative Genetic Genealogy (FIGG/IGG) world: an update in the language of Ancestry.com's TOS regarding access to historical records and family trees. 

Many investigators and genealogists feel this may have a major impact on cold cases, and on work already in progress to identify John and Jane Does/unidentified human remains and suspects in open homicide investigations. 

The Fall Line® is an investigative true crime podcast focused on cold cases, unsolved murders, missing persons, and unidentified John and Jane Does in the United States. We deliver in-depth reporting and interviews with law enforcement and forensic experts, examining unsolved homicides, disappearances, serial crimes, and the evidence behind them. Victim-centered and research-driven, we focus on cases still seeking answers.

Learn more about our cold-case coverage at our Episode Guide

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is a conversation regarding the recent terms of service changes at Ancestry.com

0:04.8

and discussions of how those changes may have long-term effects for investigative genetic

0:09.6

genealogists and others who participate in the resolution of cold cases.

0:14.3

We recognize that Ancestry is a private company that may change their terms of service at any

0:19.1

time.

0:19.9

However, we also want to provide space for

0:22.4

this conversation and the possible ramifications regarding cold cases in what is still a new field

0:28.3

of forensic investigation. This is the fall line.

0:40.6

One of our goals is to help our audience better understand forensic science and the pursuit of justice for cold cases.

0:48.6

Over the years, we've discussed investigative genetic genealogy extensively,

0:53.5

from the basics of DNA testing to collaborative

0:56.2

work that goes into building family trees to solve cases that were once considered impossible

1:01.6

to close. Our audience is already familiar with the basics, how to upload to Jedmatch,

1:08.1

what sites allow DNA comparisons by law enforcement, the ongoing discussions

1:12.5

regarding privacy, and the other methods that IgG practitioners use to resolve cases that aren't

1:18.8

DNA, family trees, census records, obituaries, yearbooks, news archives, the list goes on.

1:27.0

We've also briefly discussed the different kinds of

1:29.9

genealogy work that comes up, like paternity and air identification that have nothing to do with

1:36.1

violent crime or unidentified persons. Recently, practitioners in the field reached out to alert me

1:42.8

to a significant development.

1:44.9

Changes to Ancestry.com's terms and conditions, effective August 18th, 2025,

1:51.7

that specifically prohibit using ancestry services for law enforcement investigations.

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