The Landscape Shifts: Change Comes to Forensic IGG
The Fall Line: True Crime
The Fall Line® Podcast, LLC
4.6 • 4.4K Ratings
🗓️ 21 January 2026
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Regular guest and Accredited Investigative Genetic Genealogist (AIGG) Cairenn Binder speaks with us about a current event that has shaken up the world of Forensic Investigative Genetic Genealogy (FIGG/IGG) world: an update in the language of Ancestry.com's TOS regarding access to historical records and family trees.
Many investigators and genealogists feel this may have a major impact on cold cases, and on work already in progress to identify John and Jane Does/unidentified human remains and suspects in open homicide investigations.
The Fall Line® is an investigative true crime podcast focused on cold cases, unsolved murders, missing persons, and unidentified John and Jane Does in the United States. We deliver in-depth reporting and interviews with law enforcement and forensic experts, examining unsolved homicides, disappearances, serial crimes, and the evidence behind them. Victim-centered and research-driven, we focus on cases still seeking answers.
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| 0:00.0 | This is a conversation regarding the recent terms of service changes at Ancestry.com |
| 0:04.8 | and discussions of how those changes may have long-term effects for investigative genetic |
| 0:09.6 | genealogists and others who participate in the resolution of cold cases. |
| 0:14.3 | We recognize that Ancestry is a private company that may change their terms of service at any |
| 0:19.1 | time. |
| 0:19.9 | However, we also want to provide space for |
| 0:22.4 | this conversation and the possible ramifications regarding cold cases in what is still a new field |
| 0:28.3 | of forensic investigation. This is the fall line. |
| 0:40.6 | One of our goals is to help our audience better understand forensic science and the pursuit of justice for cold cases. |
| 0:48.6 | Over the years, we've discussed investigative genetic genealogy extensively, |
| 0:53.5 | from the basics of DNA testing to collaborative |
| 0:56.2 | work that goes into building family trees to solve cases that were once considered impossible |
| 1:01.6 | to close. Our audience is already familiar with the basics, how to upload to Jedmatch, |
| 1:08.1 | what sites allow DNA comparisons by law enforcement, the ongoing discussions |
| 1:12.5 | regarding privacy, and the other methods that IgG practitioners use to resolve cases that aren't |
| 1:18.8 | DNA, family trees, census records, obituaries, yearbooks, news archives, the list goes on. |
| 1:27.0 | We've also briefly discussed the different kinds of |
| 1:29.9 | genealogy work that comes up, like paternity and air identification that have nothing to do with |
| 1:36.1 | violent crime or unidentified persons. Recently, practitioners in the field reached out to alert me |
| 1:42.8 | to a significant development. |
| 1:44.9 | Changes to Ancestry.com's terms and conditions, effective August 18th, 2025, |
| 1:51.7 | that specifically prohibit using ancestry services for law enforcement investigations. |
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