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Hi, I'm Rachel Zoh, and you are listening to Works for Us, where we talk to people about

what works for them in their relationships, and of course, what doesn't.

Okay, so finding the right people to collaborate with can be an absolute challenge for most people.

But for our guest today, they were actually able to find their kindred spirits and dream collaborators in each other so that they could thrive together in business and even more importantly in friendship.

The Lady Gang is a celebrity-driven brand for women by women from the minds and mouths of

Kelty Knight, Becca Tobin, and Jack Vennick. The popular Lady Gang podcast since its inception

in 2015 has boasted over 100 million downloads, holy crap, making it one of the most popular

podcasts for women in the world.

This show has been nominated for a Webby Award, which, by the way, my husband created,

People's Choice Award, and in 2016, was named Podcast of the Year.

We are so excited to say that we have Becca Kelty and Jack of the Lady Gang on Works for us today. So

welcome ladies. Okay. Hi. Thanks for having us. I'm so happy you're here. This is so much fun.

And by the way, just so you know, I disinvited Roger today. I heard. He was like, there's literally zero percent chance that I have a shot with four on one here. And I was like, yeah, well, we don't want you anyway. And he's like, okay, great. I have so much work to do. I'm like, okay, bye. Well, if I had known he created the Webby's, then I would have invited him because we didn't win. Rude. We needed some old shit. Yeah, we needed some insider help because it was an L. But we also had a show on E the year we were nominated for People's Choice Award and E hosts that show. And we didn't win that either. So it's kind of like bullshit. You know, listen, listen, winning is overrated, honestly. It is. Listen to me. I think like, I always, you know,

they always say like, oh, it's an honor to be nominated. It really is because winning is a very

bizarre thing because it's swayed so easily. There's so many variables. I mean, you see it in

award season every year. Like, who should have? Who could have? Who was the, the obvious choice? And then

it went the total other way. So I do think just being nominated means that you kind of won. I know that

sounds not real, but I think that's just the way we should think about this. What do you think?

I love that. And you have the same fashion moments at award shows. There's no extra moment. Honestly, you guys, no one cares who wins. It's really what you look like on the carpet, honestly. It's true. 100%. And sometimes you don't win, but you still win. And sometimes the winners lose. By the way, that's what you're going to

wear to win win. And sometimes the winners lose. You know, all the time. By the way, all that time.

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