Today's guest is here to discuss a product she was inspired to create during a backpacking trip to the Alpine Lakes Wilderness in Washington State.

While enjoying a sunset over Robin Lakes, she stumbled upon a pile of toilet paper and started researching leave-no-trace options

for toilet paper in the wilderness.

Are you wondering what the results of this research was?

I am. I want to welcome with it to our podcast today. The founder of

Kula Cloth, Anastasia Allison.

Anastasia, welcome to Papa Bear Hikes.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm really excited to be here.

Anastasia, people may be asking, okay, Papa Bear, your guy, you're a dude, why are you talking about this?

And I will say this because early on when I started this podcast, I was like maybe less than a hundred people

listening per episode I had a woman reach out to me and she came on the podcast and talked about

the lack of items available to women in general.

Specifically, though, we got into a conversation

about the clothing.

It's men's clothing and we'll try to make it fit women.

We'll make the color so they can fit women.

And that inspired me to start watching people

like yourself following what you're doing, innovators, the outdoor industry that are specifically

addressing females. But before we go any further, I want you to tell us a bit about yourself.

Yeah, I would love to. And I also, I'm sure share a story but your tale of you know you being the the male

founder of a podcast I think I think it's really relevant to spreading the good word about these products that do exist for people because the very first backpacking trip that I ever went on

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