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The Knife: A True Crime Podcast

The Knife: Off Record – 118

The Knife: A True Crime Podcast

Exactly Right and iHeartPodcasts

True Crime

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 31 July 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

This week we bring you two crime stories in collaboration with Mandy and Melissa from Moms and Mysteries. Hannah and Patia discuss the killing of Richard Challen by his wife, Sally Challen. Then, Mandy and Melissa share the wild true story of the teenage serial thief known as the “Barefoot Bandit.” Plus, Patia and Hannah have recommendations.   

Links:  

Moms and Mysteries podcast: https://www.momsandmysteries.com/ 

David Challen’s book: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/93021229-the-unthinkable 

Recommendations:  

There’s Something Wrong with Aunt Diane 

Love Has Won 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is exactly right.

0:07.2

Everyone thinks they'd never join a cult.

0:09.5

But it happens all the time to people just like you.

0:12.2

And people just like us.

0:13.5

I'm Lola Blanc.

0:14.6

And I'm Megan Elizabeth.

0:15.9

We're the hosts of Trust Me, a podcast about cults, manipulation, and the psychology of belief.

0:21.4

Each week, we talk to fellow survivors, former believers, and experts to understand why people get pulled in and how they get out.

0:28.1

Trust me, new episodes every Wednesday on Exactly Right.

0:31.6

Listen wherever you get your podcasts.

0:36.0

This story contains adult content and language.

0:39.3

Listener discretion is advised.

0:59.0

Welcome to the Knife Off Record. I'm Pasha Eaton.

1:00.3

I'm Hannah Smith.

1:01.4

Before we get into this episode, real quick, if you are enjoying the show, first of all,

1:05.5

thank you for listening.

1:07.0

But would you do us a favor and go and rate and review us on Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen? It really does help us so much. We're a new show and we're still trying to get the word out. So if you like what we're doing, it would just mean a lot to us. Thank you so much for your support. If you really want to go above and beyond, you could send your favorite episode to a friend if you think they would like it. Thanks

1:27.7

again. Yeah, and you can also follow us on Instagram where we post clips and when we can,

1:32.6

we respond to questions and like to update listeners. So make sure you follow at The Knife

1:37.2

podcast on Instagram and Blue Sky. You can also send us an email at The Knife at exactly right

1:42.9

media.com. This week we have a collaboration with

1:46.8

Mandy and Melissa from Moms and Mysteries. Moms and Mysteries, formerly known as Moms and Murder,

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