THE KEYNESIANISM DEBATE CONTINUES: 4/4: Samuelson Friedman: The Battle Over the Free Market. by Nicholas Wapshott .
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From the author of Keynes Hayek, the next great duel in the history of economics.
In 1966 two columnists joined Newsweek magazine. Their assignment: debate the world of business and economics. Paul Samuelson was a towering figure in Keynesian economics, which supported the management of the economy along lines prescribed by John Maynard Keynes’s General Theory. Milton Friedman, little known at that time outside of conservative academic circles, championed “monetarism” and insisted the Federal Reserve maintain tight control over the amount of money circulating in the economy.
In Samuelson Friedman, the author and journalist Nicholas Wapshott brings narrative verve and puckish charm to the story of these two giants of modern economics, their braided lives and colossal intellectual battles.
Samuelson, a forbidding technical genius, grew up a child of relative privilege and went on to revolutionize macroeconomics. He wrote the best-selling economics textbook of all time, famously remarking "I don’t care who writes a nation’s laws—or crafts its advanced treatises—if I can write its economics textbooks." His friend and adversary for decades, Milton Friedman, studied the Great Depression and with Anna Schwartz wrote the seminal books The Great Contraction and A Monetary History of the United States. Like Friedrich Hayek before him, Friedman found fortune writing a treatise, Capitalism and Freedom, that yoked free markets and libertarian politics in a potent argument that remains a lodestar for economic conservatives today.
In Wapshott’s nimble hands, Samuelson and Friedman’s decades-long argument over how—or whether—to manage the economy becomes a window onto one of the longest periods of economic turmoil in the United States. As the soaring economy of the 1950s gave way to decades stalked by declining prosperity and "stagflation," it was a time when the theory and practice of economics became the preoccupation of politicians and the focus of national debate. It is an argument that continues today.
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| 0:00.0 | This is CBS Island the World. I'm John Bachelor. |
| 0:07.0 | Nicholas Wabshot's new book is Samuelson, Paul Samuelson, born |
| 0:13.0 | 1915, Friedman, Milton Friedman, born |
| 0:15.4 | 1912, that both men live well into their tenth |
| 0:19.6 | decade in their 90s. |
| 0:22.0 | At the 90th birthday of Milton Friedman, there was a toast by, I believe, Ben Bernanke, who was born in 1953, so a much younger man. |
| 0:33.1 | He toasted Milton Friedman and he said, |
| 0:35.8 | you were right, you were right, we did it. |
| 0:38.4 | What's he talking about Nicholas? |
| 0:40.6 | Well, the common view is the cause of the Great Depression, the Keynesian view, also it was to do a sort of mass hysteria in the markets, the people were speculating crazily on borrowing money in order to, rather like people do with Bitcoin right now, they're borrowing money in order to rather like people do with Bitcoin right now. They're borrowing money in order to get rich quick and this according to Keynes all went terribly wrong. |
| 1:00.0 | What Freibman did, which was a lot of hard work, he and Anna Schwartz, his partner in work, |
| 1:08.0 | was to look back at the figures and he came to actually a strangely a conclusion that is had the Federal Reserve provided |
| 1:16.8 | cheap money to the banks at that time there wouldn't have been a Great Depression and there |
| 1:20.6 | wouldn't have been the bank bust that took place. |
| 1:24.1 | But from that he deduced that actually there was something in the monetary theory and so |
| 1:30.1 | he went off on that crusade really. |
| 1:33.7 | Does that become, just logically, |
| 1:36.9 | does that become a guide post for Ben Bernanke |
| 1:39.9 | who has, who becomes the first of the several chairs to ease the interest rates to near zero |
| 1:48.0 | and to find quantitative easing and tapering. In other words, to keep the money flowing into the market. |
| 1:54.8 | Is it Friedman's insight that leads them Nicholas? |
| 1:59.0 | It is exactly. |
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